. >> bill ackman was accused of investing in -- at what charlie monger called a deeply immoral company in valeant, a pharmaceutical company, and he snapped back and said coca-cola, owned by berkshire, was a deeply immoral company. how do you grade that situation? >> so, i don't want to get into whether a company is immoral or not, but i think that -- at some point, we have to address the amount of sugar that kids are getting and whether or not we should be advertising sugar sweetened drinks to children. >> or cereal. >> or anything. >> what about alcohol? >> well, we don't -- >> it's not advertised, but it's in society. >> we don't advertise to children. >> kids still drink. >> cigarettes, we banned advertising cigarettes. >> pot or sugar worse? >> sugar. >> you're the msnbc guy, right? >> i am. >> i'm not so sure. alcoholic drinks against a can of coke? the harm to society. overall. not sugar, but just about looking at ways to -- i guess mcdonalds would be immoral too. they are a bad place. >> i said it could get crazy. >> i don't think companies are immoral. >> what about mcdonalds,